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Newbie questions

Beitrag von Malmgren »

Hi.
I hope it's ok to use english in this forum? I've trying to read in the forum for quite a while using Google Translate and I'm really starting to get the feeling this is something I want to have. Feels like a project by nerds for nerds and those are usually the best :D

I have a Automower 310 (2016 years model). I have tried to track if it's stuck somewhere using the power metering of a z-wave dongle and my OpenHAB, but it's hard to get it more intelligent than that without some help...

Some questions before buying:
Firstly, I have wifi coverage on most of my lawn but not every corner. Is that a problem? I understand that it can't tell me it's stuck if it doesn't have wifi signal, but I guess I can build a OpenHAB rule alarming me if it's unreachable for too long. But it doesn't need to have signal all the time to keep on going, right?

I want it to connect to my wifi and if I understand things correctly this is something I set up by first connecting to the Hx's own wifi. But what happens if I later on want it to connect to another wifi? The reason I'm asking is that I'm planning a remake of my network which includes changed SSIDs. How will I be able to reach the Hx to reconfigure when it doesn't reach my old wifi?

Also breaking the guarantee may be a problem. At least if asking my wife. Guess I'll have to install the hardware when she's not at home 8-)

/Daniel

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Re: Newbie questions

Beitrag von oti »

Hi Malmgren,
I have installed my new modul last week and I am very satisfied.

- "Firstly, I have wifi coverage on most of my lawn but not every corner. Is that a problem?"
Most of the users have changed their WLAN to have access in the whole area, but in general it is not a problem. My mower runs not longer than 145 minutes, so if he is not back in the charging station after that time, than something went wrong.

-"But it doesn't need to have signal all the time to keep on going, right?"
Corrrect

- "But what happens if I later on want it to connect to another wifi? The reason I'm asking is that I'm planning a remake of my network which includes changed SSIDs. How will I be able to reach the Hx to reconfigure when it doesn't reach my old wifi?"
There are 2 WLAN modes. Both can be enabled and disabled. Before changing your "home WLAN", you should enable the WLAN of the mower. Finally you can reset the modul (small switch on the modul) to get access again.

- "Also breaking the guarantee may be a problem. At least if asking my wife. Guess I'll have to install the hardware when she's not at home"
The modul gives you also the possibility to install a camera in the mower, maybe this increases the WAF. :-D

Greetings
Olaf

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Re: Newbie questions

Beitrag von Malmgren »

Thanks for your answers!
oti hat geschrieben: Di 13. Jun 2017, 21:47 There are 2 WLAN modes. Both can be enabled and disabled. Before changing your "home WLAN", you should enable the WLAN of the mower. Finally you can reset the modul (small switch on the modul) to get access again.
Ok, so both modes can be enabled simultaneously?

The small switch doesn't feel like an first hand option if it requires me to dismantle the automower just to reach it :?
oti hat geschrieben: Di 13. Jun 2017, 21:47The modul gives you also the possibility to install a camera in the mower, maybe this increases the WAF. :-D
Nope. She is not fond of cameras either. Feels difficult to get any WAF into this project, so I think it needs to go under the radar :o

/Daniel

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Re: Newbie questions

Beitrag von viahack »

Hi Malmgren,

The robonect modul HX can use two wifi modes at the same time.
It can act as access point and as wifi client.
There is no routing possible between both modes.
To make a factory reset at the robonect modul HX.
If your Mower ask for PIN,
Typ your Mower PIN - 9999.
So you have two ways to reconfigure.

Greetings
ViaHack
Automower: R40Li MSW-Version:2.01.00 MSW-Datum: 2011-09-05 17:32:18 SUB-Version: 2.00.00
Bootloader: V0.4 Kompiliert: 22.10.2016 01:12
W-LAN: AT-Version:V0.51.0 SDK-Version:V1.5.0
Hardware Seriennummer: 05DB0030-39394848-43115243

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Re: Newbie questions

Beitrag von Malmgren »

viahack hat geschrieben: Di 13. Jun 2017, 22:04 To make a factory reset at the robonect modul HX.
If your Mower ask for PIN,
Typ your Mower PIN - 9999.
Ok. No problem then.

But doesn't that mean that anybody who has physical access to my automower actually can do that and thereby take control of it?

btw, this forum lacks a "thank" button. If it had I would have clicked it. Thanks anyway ;)

/Daniel

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Re: Newbie questions

Beitrag von bezibaerchen »

Having physical access enables whoever to control your mower anyway. If you consider that a person would need the PIN to operate your mower, same goes for Robonect reset as the actual PIN would be needed to calculate the Reset-PIN.
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Re: Newbie questions

Beitrag von saugbaer »

@bezibaerchen...pflegst du bitte dein Profil....Danke ;)
:mrgreen: Ich bin nicht die Signatur, ich putz hier nur :mrgreen:
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HX + APP + VPN + Kamera + LED

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Re: Newbie questions

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Was auch immer das jetzt mit meiner Antwort zu tun hat.... Ist ja auch in der Signatur drin. Profil pflege ich, sobald ich alles weiß, was gefordert ist.
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Re: Newbie questions

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wenn alle Daten vorhanden wären, hätte ich wohl nicht drauf hingewiesen ;)
:mrgreen: Ich bin nicht die Signatur, ich putz hier nur :mrgreen:
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Re: Newbie questions

Beitrag von Malmgren »

bezibaerchen hat geschrieben: Mi 14. Jun 2017, 08:54 Having physical access enables whoever to control your mower anyway. If you consider that a person would need the PIN to operate your mower, same goes for Robonect reset as the actual PIN would be needed to calculate the Reset-PIN.
Oh, sorry. I'm reading more carefully now. I thought I should input 9999 as PIN to reset and that felt kinda unsafe. So I need to subtract 9999 from my ordinary PIN to get the Reset-PIN, right?

/Daniel

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